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dangerdaz

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: 9/11 canine hero to be cloned.... Reply with quote

Hmm dunno if i agree or not tbh..... Neutral

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - A dog that sniffed out survivors from under the rubble of New York's World Trade Center after the 2001 terror strikes is to be cloned, the California-based firm conducting the procedure said.

Trakr, a German shepherd who lives with his owner James Symington in Los Angeles, was picked by BioArts International as the most "clone-worthy" canine in a competition offering an owner a free chance to replicate their pet.

Symington said he and Trakr were among the first search and rescue teams to arrive at Ground Zero after the September 11 attacks, and were responsible for locating the last human survivor under about 30 feet (nine meters) of debris.

Now aged 15, the dog no longer has use of his back legs due to a degenerative neurological disorder. According to BioArts, experts believe the condition may be linked to exposure to toxic smoke at the World Trade Center site.

"Trakr means the world to me," Symington said. "To know that part of him is going to live on is just beyond words. It's the greatest gift I've ever received."

In the next month, BioArts said it would transport a sample of Trakr's DNA to the South Korean lab of its partner, the Sooam Biotech Research Foundation, and the clone could be ready by the end of this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm...no. Neutral
The new dog want be anything like the old one...the personality of us and animals is created by the experiences we have lived...no two can be the same...........don't say twins Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me it's just another story of humans trying to play God, it'll never work and it's silly for trying.
What they'll end up creating is something that's bound to be in pain and isn't going to fit in anywhere, not being funny, but would other dogs recognise it as a dog? dogs are clever...they would know something's up!
would this clone dog have a home or will it be in a lab? would it have loving owners? how long will it live?

.....how much will it cost?

My 2cents 2cents

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Sorry I've had a bad day...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kandice wrote:
To me it's just another story of humans trying to play God, it'll never work and it's silly for trying.
What they'll end up creating is something that's bound to be in pain and isn't going to fit in anywhere, not being funny, but would other dogs recognise it as a dog? dogs are clever...they would know something's up!
would this clone dog have a home or will it be in a lab? would it have loving owners? how long will it live?

.....how much will it cost?

My 2cents 2cents

/rant

Sorry I've had a bad day...

As far as eny dog is concerned it will be just anther dog and as far as the dog concerned it will be a dog but we do have to be carefull what we do or pay the consequences of are actions.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to have pretty extreme views on this kind of thing anyway (and I'm a vegan, for a start), but I've got to second what Kandice said. We can play at being masters of the world all we want, but the fact is we're likely to get something very wrong sooner or later. It's happened before.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im probably going to upset some forum members but..........................I am all for cloning. I dont agree with the dog, but if we have the technology to clone (replicate might be a better way of describing)for example a heart, lungs and other such things to help terminally ill people we should do it. I dont see it as playing god but helpig mankind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am for organ farming but not for living being replications. I believe that is your view Wolfie? I believe that living beings are more than the some of their components and that is why we should understand how we operate what makes us what we are but stop at that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eu wrote:
Well, I am for organ farming but not for living being replications. I believe that is your view Wolfie? I believe that living beings are more than the some of their components and that is why we should understand how we operate what makes us what we are but stop at that.


second that Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf wrote:
Im probably going to upset some forum members but..........................I am all for cloning. I dont agree with the dog, but if we have the technology to clone (replicate might be a better way of describing)for example a heart, lungs and other such things to help terminally ill people we should do it. I dont see it as playing god but helpig mankind.


Have you seen the film "Coma" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077355/ Laughing Laughing

or the Island Laughing Razz
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmc wrote:
Wolf wrote:
Im probably going to upset some forum members but..........................I am all for cloning. I dont agree with the dog, but if we have the technology to clone (replicate might be a better way of describing)for example a heart, lungs and other such things to help terminally ill people we should do it. I dont see it as playing god but helpig mankind.


Have you seen the film "Coma" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077355/ Laughing Laughing

or the Island Laughing Razz
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/

Yep Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmc wrote:
Wolf wrote:
Im probably going to upset some forum members but..........................I am all for cloning. I dont agree with the dog, but if we have the technology to clone (replicate might be a better way of describing)for example a heart, lungs and other such things to help terminally ill people we should do it. I dont see it as playing god but helpig mankind.


Have you seen the film "Coma" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077355/ Laughing Laughing

or the Island Laughing Razz
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/


Nope, and after watching In To The Wild I dont know if I want to Wink Joking, although I never really enjoyed your last reccomendation, young "supertamp" was just a selfish young boy to me with no regard ror anyone elses feelings Very Happy I loved the music throughout the film though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eu wrote:
Well, I am for organ farming but not for living being replications. I believe that is your view Wolfie? I believe that living beings are more than the some of their components and that is why we should understand how we operate what makes us what we are but stop at that.


Eu, yes thats what I meant. I just a funny/weird/cuckoo way of explaining things Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf wrote:
dmc wrote:
Wolf wrote:
Im probably going to upset some forum members but..........................I am all for cloning. I dont agree with the dog, but if we have the technology to clone (replicate might be a better way of describing)for example a heart, lungs and other such things to help terminally ill people we should do it. I dont see it as playing god but helpig mankind.


Have you seen the film "Coma" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077355/ Laughing Laughing

or the Island Laughing Razz
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/


Nope, and after watching In To The Wild I dont know if I want to Wink Joking, although I never really enjoyed your last reccomendation, young "supertamp" was just a selfish young boy to me with no regard ror anyone elses feelings Very Happy I loved the music throughout the film though Very Happy


sorry wolf... Confused ...I didn't reccomend any movie? Confused supertamp? I'm confused Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry dmc, I do apologise Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed It was a Saboeth I was refering to Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Feel free to pop up north and give me a slap for my mistake Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf wrote:
Sorry dmc, I do apologise Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed It was a Saboeth I was refering to Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Feel free to pop up north and give me a slap for my mistake Razz


Laughing ..No problem dude... Very Happy .....Any consolation....I felt the same as you about the movie "In To The Wild" Razz
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