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dangerdaz

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andy....
Im glad you put a point of view from Vadims perspective!
I for one am more than happy with the quietness and performance...and i would like to consider this topic closed please.......
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Deathwalker

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Andy Like your prioritys and i would like to say that i had windows with my case and the standard cabling was very nice ended
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shadowcreaper

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i too have been thinking a LOT about pc, changing from watercool to air.

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do not wish to insult or cause offence to any one here but when you have looked about the web and read till your eyes bleed to find out who the best custom builder is and you look at that pic it dose not make you feel as if you have purchased something built by the best.I now you get what you pay for in the world of custom built stuff and the more you pay the better the outcome.
Thats enough from me any way.


i must admit, around the web yes there are many nice pictures and specs, but do you want a nice pretty pc or a funtional pc????

People are quick to criticize when it not their pc.

LEDs+windos make a pc look lovely to the eye, i seen pictures of vadim pc on gadet show, and bloody impressive. simple design too.

I personaly rather buy a funtional pc now, then if i wish at later date buy parts and upgrade later for LED+UV ectras.

By the way, somone said that getting TJ107 isnt a good case for air cooling??? i thinking of getting antartic air system with TJ107, so wondering your veiws, would watercooling(premuim type) be realy that much better ?? or minimal???

sorry to drag on,
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Andy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TJ07 is a great case for both air cooling and liquid cooling. I would recommend going for the liquicool premium over air cooling, if it fits into your budget. 2cents
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shadowcreaper

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of crouse you would Cool

i just wondeirng if it major differance, is watercooling like having a 8 type card compared to 7, in tearms of how much better and quiter it is?

or is the quitness and performance quite small if i had premuim compared to antartic air?
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johnny5

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowcreaper wrote:
i too have been thinking a LOT about pc, changing from watercool to air.

i must admit, around the web yes there are many nice pictures and specs, but do you want a nice pretty pc or a funtional pc????

People are quick to criticize when it not their pc.

LEDs+windos make a pc look lovely to the eye, i seen pictures of vadim pc on gadet show, and bloody impressive. simple design too.

I personaly rather buy a funtional pc now, then if i wish at later date buy parts and upgrade later for LED+UV ectras.
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Firstly if I am paying I want the best to my budget looks and performance.

Secondly I did not criticize Dangerdaz set up I gave my opinion honestly to what I saw and thought and I will be honest about every thing that is put up in the forum and we can talk about.
So let it end there or this will drag on forever or untill locked Neutral
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Vincent

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry guys I didnt get a chance to get involved here for the past week. Fruim, you know i never leave something unaswered, but i can say - no i am not ashamed of dangerdaz PC as he was working on a budget and if we were to offer supreme cable management in all our PCs as standard, then i doubt he could've bought it from us. i know its not the pretiest PC in the world, but now when his missus wishes to treat him one day, he can then spend a few more quid and get a nice window with modding etc. everything else - what Andy said Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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eternal_fantasy

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cooling performance of different sizes of tubing have very little impact on the performance of the watercooling system, less then 1 degree difference (a pretty scientific tests was performed: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147767 ). As many know I use the thinner "straw like" tubings you guys an see in my test rigs, because it is much easier to work with, less water needed to fill up the system, the use of "compression" fittings are more reliable and easier to connect/disconnect, and "can" look neater and tidier then badly routed fatter tubings. Plus they create less obstruction to airflow inside the case.

Here is a nice picture with straw tubing! Mr. Green


Anyway my point is thin tubing =/ bad!
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Els

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for comparison this is supreme cable management/antartic air cooling in an TJ-09 case.

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fruim

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and heres mine..Just for comparison Wink

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dangerdaz

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say....E-Fs set up looks very sweet.... Cool
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Deathwalker

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i get back to my mums have to get some pictures done.
Think wolf would like that Very Happy
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Wolf

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathwalker wrote:
when i get back to my mums have to get some pictures done.
Think wolf would like that Very Happy


Yes, there is not enough pictures of the Mozart on here. Very Happy
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dmc

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go Wolf.... Smile



Sorry Laughing .......We need pics Deathwalker...Pics...Pics...Pics Razz

I'll delete this soon Wink
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Eu

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmc wrote:
I'll delete this soon Wink


Please don't Very Happy Laughing
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