Dangerdaz, are you shore thats a Vadim PC? I don't want to hurt your feelings doubt anyone else would say it, but the cabling looks terrible wires all over the place. The water pipes look like thick straws for drinking pop out of, it looks old and something from 2 years ago.
Sorry about the above but I always say it as I see it.
Haha...No offence taken fruim...though the cabling seems neater in rl!
This photo was taken from their site...its not one of my own.
As for the `thick straws`....They are 8mm ones, as specified in the premium D set up. They havent had any problems cooling my cpu/vga.
Im intrigued what other owners think.......and what Vincents reply will be to your post...
good to know^^, though when playing game they ant that loud are they??,by the way someone said NON -LED fan better than LED fan how come?? just wondering sinse not sure which option to choose, was going to get LED RED.
No they aren't loud... just louder than silent
dangerdaz wrote:
Haha...No offence taken fruim...though the cabling seems neater in rl!
This photo was taken from their site...its not one of my own.
As for the `thick straws`....They are 8mm ones, as specified in the premium D set up. They havent had any problems cooling my cpu/vga.
Im intrigued what other owners think.......and what Vincents reply will be to your post...
I have to agree with fruim that it is not particularly pretty, but I am sure it is perfectly functional.
It is not the sort of cabling we expect from Vadim as we are used to seeing our own and others' rigs premium cable managed which is much nicer. However, it is much more expensive, and as we can see here you do get what you pay for (not trying to say anything offensive here ). This is what you would expect for the price, and it does show the significant improvement offered for the price in premium management.
^^, premuim cableing compared to standard, personaly i cant see major differance, unless standard cable vadim do a less of a job, i sure standard will be fine, sinse it covers:keeping it tidy/good airflow.
premuim seems to use better cables agreeded no dout there, but price/what it does wise i personaly wouldnt spalsh out on it.
though if those whos got 3+k budget i sure it worth while.
HI Dangerdaz.....you don't have to answer this question.......... but how much did this Rig set you back?...........
I feel that your've had some disparaging posts from some peeps here, So don't worry their are just a bunch of tech junkies, with a hard-on for Vadims uber rigs...
HI Dangerdaz.....you don't have to answer this question.......... but how much did this Rig set you back?...........
I feel that your've had some disparaging posts from some peeps here, So don't worry their are just a bunch of tech junkies, with a hard-on for Vadims uber rigs...
Not that I don't fit into that category myself
Ps Also have you run 3DMark06 on it yet?
We were just giving our honest opinion...
Anything from Vadim is going to run awesomely which is the most important thing, and much more important than the looks which are an optional extra... we didn't even say it looked bad, just not the same as some 'uber rigs'
In all honesty if I was to purchase this system and take off the panel and see that I would be dissapointed. Dont know if It's just that the name Vadim conjurs up an image of superior kitted out rigs, weather at the bottom or the top end of the price range, or (I others) just expect that were going to get more than we paid for. It dose look like a system from a couple of years ago.I think that if thicker piping was to be used it would give a more high end custom job finnish and surley the pump could handle it , plus tubing cant be that expensive
But when the side panel is on and it's zooming along verry efficent and quietly with no window who would know the difference, as to what it looks like.
So if it dose all that Dangedaz requires and he is happy then that is all that matters.
at the end of the day, id rather a pc that works amazing and looks good outside(not opened case) just sitting there doing job nicely, than a fairy christmass tree pc that glows like the north star but runs like a donkey on LSD....
Well...this has certainly taken an interesting direction....
Just for the record...i take no offence...
I respect honest opinions!
At the end of the day i decided to go for the premium watercooling as a tester for me (as i have not had a hi end pc before)...Which i intend to upgrade to Antarctic D later...
If i had decided to stick to air cooling then i would have had the supreme cabling as well...i couldnt afford both
However i have taken off my side panel again to have a closer look (after everyones comments) and have to admit its certainly not the prettiest in the world...
As for the 8mm hosing...well that comes with the premium...Im starting to feel that i have got a rough end of the stick somewhere along the line....
Personally i would like a comment from a Vadim rep as the pic i posted seems to have generated quite a debate......especially from owners of Vadims!! (I now feel like a poor cousin!)
Oh and dmc...i scored around 13000 on 3d mark06 and the price was £1850ish....
I think people are forgetting what cases look like when getting them from an alternative supplier.
You have a case with very tidy cable solutions and I think even the better efforts of other companies, especially those from mass market suppliers, would be hard pressed to match Vadim's efforts.
I would be happy with daz's case, it's tidier, you can actually see the board and card and makes any upgrading or trouble shooting a hell a lot easier.
My Dell dual-Xeon workstation is quite messy and uses brute force cooling (it sounds like a bloody tornado, but it's in a small room and cables feed through a small wall socket). Here, to upgrade new stuff or troubleshoot hardware, I have to pratically disconnect every cable and lots of plastic bits and its true for many PCs including the simpler PCs at work (Dells/HP/IBM).
I think people are forgetting what cases look like when getting them from an alternative supplier.
You have a case with very tidy cable solutions and I think even the better efforts of other companies, especially those from mass market suppliers, would be hard pressed to match Vadim's efforts.
I would be happy with daz's case, it's tidier, you can actually see the board and card and makes any upgrading or trouble shooting a hell a lot easier.
My Dell dual-Xeon workstation is quite messy and uses brute force cooling (it sounds like a bloody tornado, but it's in a small room and cables feed through a small wall socket). Here, to upgrade new stuff or troubleshoot hardware, I have to pratically disconnect every cable and lots of plastic bits and its true for many PCs including the simpler PCs at work (Dells/HP/IBM).
Yes m8 you got a dell and daz paid for a Vadim. He paid close to 2 grand wich is a lot of money to most of us, no one is saying it is not quiet or performs poorly. We were just saying that it dose not look like a custom built pc with the pannel off. I wish to own a Vadim pc and have 2 grand ready but after seeing that pic Iam thinking twice ,I either have to save more money to get better stuff or I'll have to resort to building my own.
I do not wish to insult or cause offence to any one here but when you have looked about the web and read till your eyes bleed to find out who the best custom builder is and you look at that pic it dose not make you feel as if you have purchased something built by the best.I now you get what you pay for in the world of custom built stuff and the more you pay the better the outcome.
Thats enough from me any way.
I'm sorry to hear that some of you are unhappy with the cabling quality of Dangerdaz's system and I’d just like to clear a few things up.
Our Standard Cable Management by definition, is an ergonomic product. It is an option for people who don't want to pay for the parts, creativity, research and hard work that makes up the Supreme Cable Management package, but also want a system with excellent airflow and top of the range performance.
With standard cabling we manage all the cables to a standard that maximises the airflow within a system, but to a degree we also endeavour to make the system look neat and tidy as well. In Dangerdaz's case, he selected the Standard Cable Management but also selected no window, which lead us to believe that the look of the inside of the case was not a top priority. With this in mind we cabled his system to a level that maximised the airflow, but was not necessarily amazing to look at.
Further to this we always take into consideration future upgrades and maintenance when carrying out any form of cable management, standard or supreme, and as such Dangerdaz's system was cabled so that all the components and cables were easily accessible.
To summarise, yes, you do get what you pay for, but our reasons for the decisions we make when it come to cable management aren't always that simple. If you are ordering a system from us with Standard Cable Management and no window, the we will prioritise airflow, maintenance and upgradability over the looks. If you have Standard Cable Management and a window or something similar, then we will do our best to find a good balance of all aspects.
If you are looking for a machine which is designed with 100% ergonomics AND 100% aesthetics in mind, then a Vadim system with Supreme Cable Management is what you need.
I'm sorry to hear that some of you are unhappy with the cabling quality of Dangerdaz's system and I’d just like to clear a few things up.
Our Standard Cable Management by definition, is an ergonomic product. It is an option for people who don't want to pay for the parts, creativity, research and hard work that makes up the Supreme Cable Management package, but also want a system with excellent airflow and top of the range performance.
With standard cabling we manage all the cables to a standard that maximises the airflow within a system, but to a degree we also endeavour to make the system look neat and tidy as well. In Dangerdaz's case, he selected the Standard Cable Management but also selected no window, which lead us to believe that the look of the inside of the case was not a top priority. With this in mind we cabled his system to a level that maximised the airflow, but was not necessarily amazing to look at.
Further to this we always take into consideration future upgrades and maintenance when carrying out any form of cable management, standard or supreme, and as such Dangerdaz's system was cabled so that all the components and cables were easily accessible.
To summarise, yes, you do get what you pay for, but our reasons for the decisions we make when it come to cable management aren't always that simple. If you are ordering a system from us with Standard Cable Management and no window, the we will prioritise airflow, maintenance and upgradability over the looks. If you have Standard Cable Management and a window or something similar, then we will do our best to find a good balance of all aspects.
If you are looking for a machine which is designed with 100% ergonomics AND 100% aesthetics in mind, then a Vadim system with Supreme Cable Management is what you need.
). This is what you would expect for the price, and it does show the significant improvement offered for the price in premium management.
So don't worry 
their are just a bunch of tech junkies, with a hard-on for Vadims uber rigs... 
